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Phone. File photoUN, 16 Aug. The conversation between UN Secretary General António Guterres and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu the day before was «very good,» Stéphane Dujarric, spokesman for the Secretary General, said at a briefing. «The Secretary General had a very good conversation with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu yesterday.During the discussion, the issue of the Black Sea grain initiative was raised, as well as another part of the deal, which involves facilitating access to the world market for Russian grain and fertilizers, «Dujarric said.UN expects bilateral meeting between Guterres and Zelensky